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so new	represed sexuality	Lead	[-]
Posts: 105 (10/23/08 14:55:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None i have always thought i was the only one, but the issue of masturbation has been one i always wanted to discuss openly with someone. i have felt a lot of guilt about this and yet married and still actively masturbating sometimes to pictures in the church directory i once called a telephone hot line and told them the distress i had because i could not stop. a christian school teacher called it ononism and was a result of not having pure thoughts and needing to be around people more when bill g came out with his memorization message i was sure i found the answer only to find that it became worse and i started to go to xxx stores for more explicit material. actually the only help i have ever found is in condemned material, Nathaniel Branden's books about self acceptance this has led to great feeling of peace and self control and acceptance. that reminds me i tried fasting, burning money, and denial of attraction to women. this was when i thought i was the most spiritual and i am sure some ## minister would say i need to become a true believer. anyway anyone with similar experience, i feel the church uses this area to encourage guilt so they can get their claws into you. also, did not want to be to bold as to offend someone, sorry about this subject matter and yet at the same time iam going to post it
scribe2007		#1	[-]
Posts: 1041 (10/23/08 21:05:21) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	so new wrote: ...burning money... Burning money? That is serious! So New, hie thee to a doctor! Seriously, what you are describing sounds like sexual addiction, which is a common enough thing to seek help for. And as the church hasn't helped, why not try a secular psychologist? Cruelty I believe is just one of the dark fruits of pentecostalism. - PepperMintPaty Last Edited By: scribe2007 10/23/08 21:23:11. Edited 1 times.
geoffreylaw313		#2	[-]
Posts: 317 (10/24/08 09:03:31) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	So New, you're a dude. Every guy likes porn and masturbating. I wouldn't worry about it too much. You have to realize that you're feeling guilty about something that doesn't deserve it. That's just church brainwashing. As far as going to a church for help on this? Good luck. The christian church has spent the majority of it's history demonizing anything sexual. Not to mention, if the old testament god thought it was OK to sell your daughter off as a sex slave (as long as you sell her to a Jew) then I would have to assume that masturbating is OK too. XXX stores are kind of creepy though. I'd rather download porn off the internet. Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they? George Carlin I'm not concerned about all hell breaking loose, but that a PART of hell will break loose... it'll be much harder to detect. George Carlin
CharlesinCharge		#3	[-]
Posts: 19 (10/24/08 10:17:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think you are worrying too much about something that is nobodies business but yours. You aren't harming anyone. I used to fantasize about every woman in our church even the pastors wife. Now you said you are married? When I was married or in a relationship if things were going good I never had the urge to pull the Pud. But when we started not getting along is when I could no longer find the urge to have sex with that woman and started to view the internet as a sex partner. I could be wrong but maybe you and your wife need to go to counseling? The church directory? I never thought of that one, lol. Don't sweat the small stuff.
DiamondGirllovesHarleys		#4	[-]
Posts: 671 (10/24/08 10:44:41) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This is a common one even for women. I suffered with being told that masterbation was a sin(they called it self love)and that we as men and women(esp women I guess)are supposed to think of Jesus as our husband until he brought us a mate. I never understood this concept because if your married to Christ and you marry someone else isn't that adultry? I was told it was a spiritual thing and I may not understand it. WHATEVER!!!!!!! I was celebate for 8 years thinking I was doing the right thing and being chaste for Christ. When I got with Chris he was the first man I was with in 8 years he didn't know what to do with me bless his heart. However during that 8 year period of being celebate sometimes a female has to do what she has to do. God created us as sexual beings I can tell you it can physcally hurt if you don't release it you can become mad and even angry and short tempered with no release. I think that is why some people in the churchs are so mean they aren't getting any or finding release for that need. No where in the bible can I find where it talks about masterbation except for the one in the new testament that speaks of being lovers of themselves. Except now I don't think that was talking about masterbation I think it was talking about people being extremely self centered and only caring for themselves. Do I think that I am doing sin by being with Chris? No because I truly love him and we are committed to one another. However I think you may need to talk to someone about other issues this denom can cause I think it is all tied together. I think it will help you to find someone you can trust that won't judge you or say things to make you feel bad about yourself. Masterbation is normal if you feel you have a problem and you know yourself better than anybody I think it is completely ok to seek out someone to talk to not just about this but about other things that have happened to you in this denom. Hello from http://www.thehauntedcastle.yuku.com
mfreeman73		#5	[-]
Posts: 196 (10/24/08 12:20:55) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This was always a controversial subject in church and not one talked about much at all. I always felt guilty in my teens and twenties because I always felt like I was the only one doing it in my church. I'd try so hard not to, but in the end I'd have to let off some steam. In fact, I probably ended up having sex more often because I was trying not to masturbate. If I had taken matters into my own hands more often, it probably would have easier to avoid sex. Of course, now looking back I realize that probably most of the guys in church, including the pastor, were probably doing it. I don't sweat it now, although I'm married now. Now it's more of a thing to do when the wife is away. I think as long as it's not affecting your relationships and life then go ahead. And it's not a matter of me not being a Christian and thinking that. I'm still a Christian (just not a pente anymore), but I just think God is more interested in other areas of our lives rather than whether we released some tension or not.
stubborn envelope		#6	[-]
Posts: 1247 (10/24/08 12:31:39) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This is a subject that was never once mentioned in all the time I attended United Pentecostal churches, though one young man -- my cousin, actually -- alluded to it in a subtle way during a firey sermon full of -- you guessed it -- condemnation and sexual repression. Despite the fact that it was never mentioned, and none of my mentors ever counseled me about it when I was becoming a teenager, I always felt extremely guilty about it. The longest I ever managed to go without masturbating was about 5 - 6 months. Now it's something I no longer feel guilty about. It's a part of normal human development, it is common throughout life, and touching of the genitals begins IN THE WOMB. If you think you have a sexual addiction, you should see a secular psychologist or therapist, as was recommended above. But masturbation in itself is not an evil thing. It is Pentecostalism that twists the most innocent pleasures into some sort of evil that they are not. James "The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed." -- Albert Einstein
RogerDodger		#7	[-]
Posts: 105 (10/24/08 13:56:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It's been interesting reading everyone's opinion's.Uh,maybe a little too interesting....excuse me,I need to get to the bathroom.....dammit,now where's that Hustler mag....oh yeah,I hid it in the towel closet.....
geoffreylaw313		#8	[-]
Posts: 321 (10/24/08 16:05:04) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	LOL. Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they? George Carlin I'm not concerned about all hell breaking loose, but that a PART of hell will break loose... it'll be much harder to detect. George Carlin
Conservatarian		#9	[-]
Posts: 792 (10/24/08 22:24:59) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Here's a useful link. http://www.religioustolerance.org/masturba.htm And no masturbation is not explicitly condemned in scripture. However, according to the New Testament, if you have lustful thoughts towards someone, it's the same as having sex with them, in your heart. Whatever lust is. I never did find out how lust differs from just plain sexual attraction, if it does. Maybe that's why the Holiness churches seem to be predominately filled with old people. They're the only ones who no longer have sexual feelings.
SOUTHCOASTVET25		#10	[-]
Posts: 7 (10/25/08 08:19:51) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yeah...I struggled with it too for a little bit. The longest period? two weeks. I guess natural instincts overcame the brainwashing. lol I'd always feel a little guilty though. I found the more I repressed it the crazier I got. The guilt never bothered me THAT much. When I bagan to debunk the whole pente cult the guilt went away.Church directory? omg lmao thats funny.
Lutherius		#11	[-]
Posts: 3561 (10/25/08 08:29:12) Happy Reprobate Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Reminds me of a song: Chuck Berry - My Ding A Ling http://www.youtube.com/wa...GluXI&feature=related When I was a little bitty boy My grandmother bought me a cute little toy Silver bells hangin on a string she told me it was my ding a ling a ling Chorus: o my ding a ling , my ding a ling i want u to play with my ding a ling (repeat) you know then mamma took me to sunday school they tried to teach me the golden rule every time the choir would sing i'd take out my ding a ling a ding then mamma took me to grammar school but i stopped off in the vestibule every time that bell would ring catch me playin with my ding a ling a ling (chorus) once i was climbing the garden wall i slipped and had a terrible fall i fell so hard i heard bells ring but held on to my ding a ling a ling (chorus) I remember the girl next door we used to play house on the kitchen floor she'd be the queen and i'd be the king and i let her play with my ding a ling a ling (chorus x2) once i was swiming cross turtle creek man them snappers all around my feet sure was hard swimming across that thing with both hands holding my ding a ling a ling (chorus) girl downstairs shes so big and bold grandma warned me, "shes too old" she used to take me swingin in the school yard swing swing down and take my ding a ling a ling (chorus) this here song it aint so sad the cutest little song you ever had those of you who will not sing you must be playing with your own ding a ling (chorus) your ding a ling your ding a ling we saw u playin with your ding a ling oh my ding a ling everybody sing i want to play with my everybody my, ding a ling oh my, ding a ling (slow down) I wanna play (everybody) with my ding a ling...!!! Lutherius "I cannot and I will not recant. Here I stand; I can do no other." Martin Luther Ex-Pentecostal Forums Lutherius' Blog (Archived Essays) Pentecostal Watchdog Society (Yahoo Allied Group) derkrash@earthlink.net (My Personal Email)
Stargv		#12	[-]
Posts: 642 (10/25/08 08:35:58) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	" anyone with similar experience, i feel the church uses this area to encourage guilt so they can get their claws into you. " Well besides the issue of masturbation, (which i have a strange memory of doing at around age 3, and being punished for it), I think growing up around sexual repression can cause alot of problems, to many to mention. I think it tends to cause the opposite effect they are hoping for. I always wanted to dress sexually, (like madonna, and there was HELL to pay for that! lol) For as long as I can remember I always craved male attention and had to have it or I felt like a nobody or invisible. I still to this day struggle with this, what is proper/acceptable for a lady my age! I always wondered why did God make me such a sexual person if it is meant to be repressed, I only remember a couple of times I EVER saw my parents kiss, hug, show any signs of affection towards each other, still to this day and that is no exaggeration. Sorrow lasts through this night I'll take this piece of you And hold for all eternity For just one second I felt whole As you flew right through me-Flyleaf
SilentKnight12		#13	[-]
Posts: 653 (10/25/08 08:58:51) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	How many here belonged to "churches" that were so repressed that sex within marriage was allowed only for the purpose of procreation? I mean if you can't have nookie for fun when you're married, what's the point of any of it? Fortunately, I never attended any like that but knew some people I think would have if one was nearby. There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live.
DiamondGirllovesHarleys		#14	[-]
Posts: 674 (10/25/08 10:21:22) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You know truthfully some want to control every aspect of others lives including what they do in the privacy of their own homes as consenting adults. I have heard of some groups going so far as to actually preach that there is only one postion in bed missionary. That men and women should not perform certain things. To me that is going way to far when in the bible itself it says we are not to condemn the marriage bed. In other words mind your own business. Hello from http://www.thehauntedcastle.yuku.com
aarong		#15	[-]
Posts: 90 (10/29/08 19:31:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	personally I prefer a wide range of positions
Stargv		#16	[-]
Posts: 646 (10/29/08 20:14:23) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	aarong wrote: personally I prefer a wide range of positions Ha Funny! But TMI! LOL! Sorrow lasts through this night I'll take this piece of you And hold for all eternity For just one second I felt whole As you flew right through me-Flyleaf
aarong		#17	[-]
Posts: 91 (10/29/08 22:44:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	what? i can sleep standing up .. laying down... leaning on something.. Haha ok i know i cant back out of it that gracefully
Taco Fred		#18	[-]
Posts: 1016 (10/30/08 03:40:43) exPc Fan Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	SilentKnight12 wrote: How many here belonged to "churches" that were so repressed that sex within marriage was allowed only for the purpose of procreation? We had a pastor that one time during a sermon said, "a husband and wife should never see each other naked." Hmmm....that would mean he is endorsing doing it with the clothes on...which could be interpretted as him saying it is okay to have a lot of "quickies." Celebrating 25 years of being Pentecost free!
so new		#19	[-]
Posts: 107 (10/30/08 15:15:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	i also feel that the church teaches self-control as equal to self distrust. do not trust the mind, emotions or what you read if the person is not a christian another method of self control is illustrated in the sermon about the army of david waiting to drink the water. bull i have fasted, and denied myself other things but it has given no self control sorry rev._____.
Parrotboy		#20	[-]
Posts: 54 (10/30/08 17:33:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The P/C tried to repress my sexuality but it didn't work. I got tired of lying to myself and everyone else. The only "choice" I ever made was the choice to be honest and open about who I am and who I will be. Issues such as sex are yet another area where the P/C has stuck its nose where it didn't belong. As far as masturbation goes, I see nothing wrong with it. Its perfectly normal and its all part of the human condition. I can remember masturbating when I was 4 years old sitting in the bathtub. I thought "wow, this goes up and down! What fun!" Anyway, its a perfectly safe sex and its just something that a lot of people do and its normal. I remember my dad caught me stoking my sausage once. He walked into the bathroom thinking no one was in there. Naturally I was horrified I was so embarassed but my dad laughed and shook his head and walked out of the bathroom. I couldn't believe he didn't whip my ass for it but he never mentioned it and I sure as hell never brought it up again! LOL! He probably wasn't surprised that he ended up with a horny son! Parrotboy (aka Squawkbox)

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