I figure trying to get them to think for themselves is largely an exercise in self-defeat. Only if you're lucky and hit on the exact words to break through the programming barrier can you start them thinking.

Otherwise, you'll just bounce off the "that's liberal (stuff)" wall. Their thinking has been reprogrammed into loops that don't permit critical thought.

I focus more now on the people who aren't yet brainwashed, but who are susceptible/not aware. I try to educate people enough that their BS detector at least has some sort of input sensitive to P/D/F stuff.

They don't like that, because it means that they loose potential converts (and because I oppose their machinations!)