Blackdog - You are so right - these nut cases are so disconnected from reality its pathetic. The sad thing is they hardly ever question where the beliefs come from or question much of anything as far as I can see. They just repeat what they were taught - never having an independent thought!

Archie - The next time they tell me I'm going to hell for smoking I will ask them where it says so in the bible and see what "pat" answer they come up with. I was told by them that Joyce Meyer said "that we should live like Jesus is visiting us personally in our homes everyday" and not be doing things like "smoking" since we wouldn't do that in front of Jesus. I told them "that Jesus knows what I do and that he is the only one I could be REAL around who wouldn't be holier than thou and self-righteous like a bunch of so called holy church people. That actually shut them up! However, I know they will bring the subject up again as they are so certain that smoking is a sin which will send me to hell.

They are always quoting this Joyce Meyer like she is God's direct spokesperson. Is she Word of Faith or what is she?


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