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Sep 20 08 4:16 PM
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lozza wrote: If I were to distill the movement I would say that all Pentecostals and Charismatics necessarily believe and practice what is called (1) Speaking in Tongues, and I think "speaking in tongues" has become less popular among Charismatics and so-called Empowered Evangelicals (Vineyard people). It's not uncommon for someone high up in the movement to admit they don't speak in tongues. The new pionts of focus are: seeker friendly, developing the "prophetic", and in some quarters, dream interpretation.
If I were to distill the movement I would say that all Pentecostals and Charismatics necessarily believe and practice what is called (1) Speaking in Tongues, and
That is an interesting angle, Lozza, and perhaps this will be a part of "teasing" out the definition to be as accurate as possible.
If, as you say, and that, perhaps, as we all know, there are those higher up who do not speak in tongues, then this is another expression of what it means to be a Pentecostal, and one of those peculiar consequences of its ESSENCE, I think.
Let us assume for this instance that they, the leaders, do not speak in tongues. Let us further assume that the congregation practices speaking in tongues. Does this mean that leaders are playing the system in some cynical attitude where they are assuming the people are dumb sheep while they pocket the money? This could be a part of the further descriptions after we work out a working definition, or concept, where one attribute of Pentecostalism, as an outgrowth of some people not wanting to leave, but stuck psychologically in the system, a cynical deception game. Another possibility is that they no longer believe in speaking in tongues, and there is NO deceptive intent. Which do you think might be the case, Lozza?
My intuition tells me that the cynical angle is more probable. Or, perhaps there are BOTH aspects to consider further.
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