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I hope my cousin and I can agree to disagree on the Pente/Fundamentalist/Celebrate Recovery issue and respect and continue to love one another despite our
differing beliefs. While this is my ideology, I don't know if it is reality.
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RobWood |
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I think the fundamental problem is that there's an underlying assumption that you are broken in some way, and you can get "fixed" by joining a
group and performing some sort of ritual behavior. Human beings are social animals who tend to identify themselves by the group they belong to - it's the
"my school is better than your school" syndrome. Because we tend to feel insecure when we are just out here stumbling along on our own, we are the
most vulnerable to invitations to join this or that group when we are feeling lonely, lost, depressed, isolated or disconnected. Because we feel so much better
(or convince ourselves that we do, at any rate) after joining one of these groups, we then tend to become "evangelists," telling anyone who will
listen about THE ANSWER to life's problems.
This is how religions - especially those that are performance-oriented (Pentecostal and Charismatic, for example) - are born, and that's how they continue to thrive. The truth is that the more emphasis placed on performance (saying the right phrases, raising your hands in the proper way during worship, not smoking, etc.), the less emphasis placed on personal growth and private spiritual development. That is the irony in organized religions: the closer one gets to "perfection" (as the group defines it), the further away one gets from enlightenment and a working relationship with whatever you believe god to be. Jesus tried to explain this, by the way. He said when people pray in public, their reward is in the performance and audience approval, but if they want their true spiritual needs met, to pray in private. The bottom line is that we behave according to who we are, and where we happen to be on our own path at any given time. To put this into practical terms, if you need to quit smoking, you will quit. If you continue to smoke, it's because you aren't ready to quit. But whether you quit or not, you are no more or less "spiritual" than someone who is a non-smoker. My 2 cents. Rob |
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Rob - your're "2 cents" is "priceless"!!!!!
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boustro |
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Great post, Rob!
Tim
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RobWood |
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It's a complex thing, finding your own way. In the long run, though, it's worth it. As hard and rocky as the road has been since I left, I'd do it
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RobWood wrote:Rob - thanks for the support. I really needed to hear what you had to say!! |
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Lutherius wrote: Lutherius - how true you're words of wisdom are - especially "It is reckless to jump into something without preparation and study". Thanks!! Not1Perfect
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charliedog |
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Sending hugs to not1perfect. I hope it works out for you.
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RobWood |
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not1perfect, I would recommend taking a non-confrontational approach with your cousin. Simply say you understand his concerns, but that you are working on
these issues in your own way, and in your own time, and to please respect that. Then shut up.
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No human being should be told to shut up- the words shut up are mean and cruel! |
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RobWood |
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not1perfect wrote:Sorry, it appears you misunderstood me. I meant no harm. Let me rephrase it: not1perfect, I would recommend taking a non-confrontational approach with your cousin. Simply say you understand his concerns, but that you are working on these issues in your own way, and in your own time, and to please respect that. Then refrain from discussing the subject any further with him. That way, the situation can't escalate into a rift between you, because you aren't "playing" that particular game. Forgive me? Rob |
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not1perfect |
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Rob - Apology accepted.
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RobWood |
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not1perfect wrote:
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