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angeloftruth wrote:

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"Angel- I'd bet you'd get very angry with me. Probably insult me and call me all sorts of nasty names."

No, I am not that kind of person. My way is love in I Corinthians 13. Love is patient, Love is kind, Love is not rude.

My experience of YOUR kind of church is that it is bigoted. Violent. Hate-filled. "

Have you ever read the book of I John? It is all about love and the book of I John mentions that anyone who does not walk in love doesn't know God. If a person says that they know and love God but do not love others then they are a lier. The people persecuting you were not born of God. Those who are born again love others. One of Jesus' commandments to His disciples is that we are to love one another. Infact the fruit of the Spirit is love. The greatest gift is love. Have you ever read the love chapter I Corinthians 13. We can do some awsome things but without love we are nothing.

Those born of God walk in God's love. They love others and hate is not apart of them. Just because a person goes to church doesn't mean they are a true Christian, just because a person is religious doesn't mean they know God.

Though out church history the church has been guilty of blood shed. The people who did these murders were not true Christians. They may have been Christian in the religious since but they were not born again to do the crimes that they did. And it is sad that the church history has such a dark past.

What the body of Christ needs is a love movement. We need to love, respect one another even when we can't always agree with one another on things. One of Jesus' prayers was that His disciples would love one another. I believe that we are the only ones that can answer Jesus prayer by choosing to walk in love. Even when we don't always agree with one another, we can still chose to love and not hate. Have a blessed day. God bless you.

Your arguements presented here are examples of the "no true scotsman" fallacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman And furthermore, you all wouldn't believe some of the racist things I've heard uttered by some of my own family. A few years ago, some oneness Pentecostal murdered his wife, after she threatened to leave him, and the church. As a result, I decided to fear and loathe Apostolics, in general. My mother told me that those Apostolics(oneness Pentecostals) are different than those in my family, as they are black, and belonged to an offshoot of the Apostolic Faith Church, which is like the black equivalent of the United Pentecostal Church, from back in the days of segregation. Here is a link to the news articles about it. http://www.rickross.com/groups/apostolic.html I've decided personally that if I'm going to hold negative biases against people, it should be based upon religion, rather than race. As one can choose there religion, but not there race. I know that when I was Holiness I was not hateful, but then again that's also one of the reasons why I left them. I developed respect for my self, and for others. I chose to no longer view myself as being a wretched worm, in the sight of God, or the world at large as being accursed by God, because they are not saved, and/or sanctified. One of the reasons why Holiness/Pentecostal people are so nasty is because they believe that they are as perfect as God is. Therefore they tend to become self righteous know it alls. So therefore they will, as a general rule, place themselves in judgement of others, and spiritualy bully them. It's like "he who is without sin cast the first stone". And they're like "I have no sin, for I've been entirely sanctified by the Holy Spirit". So they then cast stones of judgement, and condenmation, at all others, figuretively speaking. And then also, as we've all seen from the post I quoted above, if any of them actually are exposed as being sinful in some way or another, they are just simply written off as being false christians. It's exactly like muslims who insist that Osama Bin Laden is not a true muslim. Well call them what you will, we know what they respresent themselves to be, and what the possible motivation for there behaviour is.