Difficult Situation

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feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:45:50 GMT

Oh, I see.

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feeds@yuku.com (charliedog) — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:37:48 GMT

RobWood wrote:

We've all escaped from a world that is inhabited by demons we co-created with our abusers, angels that are out of reach, a Father who remains removed and capricious, and a Son who seems at odds with the religious empire that has been built in his name. It's time to put all of these...

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feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:14:56 GMT

I don't understand the relevance of the post?

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feeds@yuku.com (charliedog) — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:46:26 GMT

Yeah - I think he just likes to make up things...Anyway, he is living 500 miles away now, so that chapter is closed. Interesting though. Like I said to Henny....people move on.
Time heals.
And the sea-changes are just that...

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feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:02:25 GMT

Was this water-bearing woman similar to the one you experienced with the AA meditations?

The visualization/meditation actually came from Paganism: An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religions. It was a meditation to discover one's deity, or more accurately, one's concept of deity. I usually do not refer to her as a goddess or deity because people tend to think of a magical, outside being that a person worships. Aeah -- that is what I call...

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feeds@yuku.com (Lutherius) — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:11:35 GMT

stubborn envelope wrote:

They understood mothering and love coming from a female figure, so it was more acceptable. I don't have the slightest problem with people worshipping a Goddess- because of the things I've learned

I have experienced other "energies" (for lack of a better term -- I don't see these "beings" as separate from myself) in the past on at...

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feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:15:06 GMT

They understood mothering and love coming from a female figure, so it was more acceptable. I don't have the slightest problem with people worshipping a Goddess- because of the things I've learned

I have experienced other "energies" (for lack of a better term -- I don't see these "beings" as separate from myself) in the past on at least one occasion. There was another occasion, but I don't know if it qualifies. That time...

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feeds@yuku.com (RobWood) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:34:40 GMT

James, I wouldn't start to interpret your experience, because I'm on the outside, while you're on the inside, but let me share what I know,and if it helps you, that's my purpose.

I believe that all of us who fell (or were dragged) into fundamentalist religion were vulnerable, and the root of that vulnerability is a yearning to connect with the universe around us. We needed to be part of it, and to understand it, and maybe - in some way - to own it, to make it...

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feeds@yuku.com (walkawayarchie) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:28:46 GMT

I have a different take on your experience, James. I don't buy Jungian interpretation of dreams, although I accept a teaching that in each man is the image of a woman and in each woman is an image of a man (and this is based upon cultural ideas about men and women- IMO we aren't that different at all- differences in behavior and "emotions" are culturally derived.)

To try to get an idea of what it means would require knowing your history and your relationships...

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feeds@yuku.com (Lutherius) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:37:31 GMT

I think there is also the case of this Anima being a sub-personality within us, can be at times friendly, and at other times angry with us - just like a girlfriend or a wife. Perhaps you should keep note if this black woman is sometimes friendly and at other times angry with you.

There is so much to learn about this stuff, that I sometimes get it confused in my head. Sorry if I screw up some of the terms.

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feeds@yuku.com (Lutherius) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:31:24 GMT

I am no expert, but I think the Shadow is usually disturbing (same-sex dark figure). However, I think that the Anima (opposite-sex dark figure) - the female image within a male - is not as scary, and can be the connection to creativity and such. Perhaps I should have said the Anima is Mysterious and Feminine.

I think the Shadow can be "traitorous." I do not think the Anima is usually as disturbing. But, the Anima usually shows up in dreams as an unknown woman to a male...

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feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:55:04 GMT

Interesting. I don't experience mine as disturbing or traitorous at all. She seems to be the part of me that is strong and good and well. Is it common to experience them this way?

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feeds@yuku.com (Lutherius) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:32:30 GMT

Cool. Yeah, it works on people in differing ways, as I understand it. Often these figures appear in dreams, sometimes in fantasies, and for some people, even in visions.

For me, the little I have looked into my own psyche with these things, they appear in my dreams. I have seen my Shadow and my Anima in dreams. My Shadow is a dark version of myself who dresses in dark colors, is a little darker than me, and is extremely violent and knows weapons and martial arts very well, and...

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feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:22:37 GMT

Thank you, Lutherius. I have never heard of these concepts, but this kind of ties into a reply I just wrote in the private Christian forums, although this experience goes beyond anything I've heard of in Christianity so far.

I have been searching the Internet today trying to understand what this is, but I didn't know what to call it. It sounds almost like the daemons I read about in The Golden Compass triology.

I will definitely look into this. I'm glad to know...

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feeds@yuku.com (Lutherius) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:03:40 GMT

Sounds like you have come in touch with your anima - your female archetype. If you come in touch with an unknown man who may appear as a dark figure, this is likely your shadow.

Of course, with your sexuality, perhaps these images might be of reverse sex. Perhaps this black woman is your animus given your sexuality. Only you can determine this.

You probably will benefit from the writings of Carl Jung, who has written extensively about these things from a rational...

Difficult Situation

feeds@yuku.com (stubborn envelope) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:07:38 GMT

I have been in a difficult situation with a room mate and other factors that I won't go into right now, which is part of the reason I've not been around the forums. I just don't have the energy or inclination to re-hash it all and may not need to. I also don't have a reliable Internet connection right now, though I can still access the Internet through campus when I can't get a connection from home.

Anyhow, I came into contact with an al-anon group through a...