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        <![CDATA[ Hey,

Particularly for those who are attending [non-charismatic obviously] church (although feel free to answer anyone) - how do you deal with the triggers of old
stuff to be able to stay there?


thanks
 ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, I saw that too. I really had no idea there was an organized effort, but that explains a lot. I recently tried to find a local church and was horrified at
how charismatic they all were, and I was looking at traditional denominations. None outright claimed to be charismatic, but we all know how to spot them. ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:53:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
			<link>http://expentecostalforums.yuku.com/reply/79503/t/triggers-.html#reply-79503</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I mentioned this very thing in another thread. It&#39;s been known for some time.  (In the thread about &quot;Real rules of Pentecostalism&quot;.)
<br>
<br> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  He only expelled people when they successfully got an Episcopalian to drop out and join the Pentecostals.
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Wow, that&#39;s incredibly neglectful to allow it to go that far before taking action.
<br>
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Aside from that, your post was frightening yet affirms what I&#39;ve been suspicious of for years. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ It&#39;s a story I&#39;ve seen too often- even in the last church we attended.
<br>
<br>
There seems to be a couple of different types of steeplejackers- those who are better trained and those who are not. The better trained ones are more subtle
and stay behind the scenes- quitely pushing the church towards dominionism. Then there are those who might not be as well trained*- that are rather overt about
their Pentecostalism. The priest of the church we used to attend said that he had to expel... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:05:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  Lozza- she sounds like she could be a steeplejacker. I&#39;d go to the leader/pastor of your church and warn him or her. I&#39;d also cue in the leader of
  the group. Check out her background- I&#39;d bet that she comes from a Pentecostal church, and I&#39;d almost bet AoG.
</blockquote>walkawayarchie, the person is definitely Pentecostal.  This hasn&#39;t bothered me before now, but it&#39;s starting to become an issue.  I still
feel so wound up over what happened last week.... ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ At my church the choir leader sometimes will have to talk about the song the choir is about ready to perform. At times she comes across as rather emotional and
appears to want others to &quot;feel it&quot; as well. When this happens, I usually tune her out. She one time made a joke about missing the rapture and no one
laughed. Our pastor quietly explained to her our church does not teach or believe in dispensationalism. When she made the joke I rolled my eyes and sighed.
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There was... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:51:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ Lozza- she sounds like she could be a steeplejacker. I&#39;d go to the leader/pastor of your church and warn him or her. I&#39;d also cue in the leader of the
group. Check out her background- I&#39;d bet that she comes from a Pentecostal church, and I&#39;d almost bet AoG.
<br>
<br>
People like that are like an infectious disease - they come into something that is OK, and turn the whole thing Pentecostal. I&#39;ve seen that several times
in the 26 years since I walked (I stopped being active... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Wow, Lozza. I would most definitely complain to the leaders. I&#39;m sure you&#39;re not the only one uncomfortable also. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: triggers?  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ For me, I ran to a liturgical/orderly church precisely because I knew there was very little leeway for chaos there.
<br>
<br>
But there have been a couple of moments when I had a flashback of sorts and it scared the poop out of me. Once, there was a mentally ill person at Mass who had
a meltdown/episode during the prayer. The caregiver was able to get her out of there, but it didn&#39;t stop me from breaking out in a cold sweat at the
thought of chaos invading a holy moment. And another time,... ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:04:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <font color="#0000FF" size="6"><font size="4">MARLA! &quot;Scary beyond all reason&quot; LOVING IT!!!!
<br>
<br>
Lozza what you describe seems typical of Holy Trinity Brompton to me and of the sort of &quot;intense&quot; accusatory CRQP that used to go on.
<br>
I would suggest that this woman has mental health issues or some sort of hormone problem going on...And if you don&#39;t want to deal with her, (why should
you) then don&#39;t go. The leaders should have stepped in.
<br>
<br>
When... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I get angry when confronted with a trigger and tend to keep rehashing what I&#39;ve heard for days, if not weeks.  At the moment, I&#39;m quite annoyed over
two incidents that took place in a bible study.   The bible study is non-Charismatic.  I&#39;ve been going for years and really enjoy it, but a recent member
has started pushing for Pentecostal things to happen.  A couple of weeks ago, she started to pray for someone in the church.  About halfway through the prayer,
she came against a... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ MY GOD!!! Someone who didn&#39;t insist that you listen to the sermon and insisted that the problem is YOU!!!
<br>
<br>
That is incredible that a pastor&#39;s wife would be so caring and do something so helpful!!! I&#39;m not being cynical or anything- it&#39;s amazing to me!
The ones I&#39;ve known were either standoffish or preachy- ALL of them. One was even viciously abusive towards my wife. (I&#39;m ashamed to admit that I was
more concerned about my wife&#39;s anger than I was about the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Long hot baths and meditation. I mean, at least a half hour in the bath, and probably at least 10-15 minutes of meditation.
<br>
<br>
Actually a long hot bath at the same time as meditation helps me out a lot.
<br>
<br>
Graham Ledgerwood&#39;s &quot;Keys to Higher Consciousness&quot; is a good place to begin, if you are interested. I think you can get the book used from
Amazon. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I still have trouble with that from time to time.  Having people around who are sympathetic is helpful.
<br>
<br>
The last time for me involved a guest speaker who spoke in such a way that it set of my PTSD, and I started to shake and get freaked out.  I went to a back
room in the nursery where there was a couch and sat there with my fingers crammed in my ears.  The pastor&#39;s wife wandered in, took one look, and quickly
went out again and found the sound guy and got him to cut the sound to... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Hey,
<br>
Particularly for those who are attending [non-charismatic obviously] church (although feel free to answer anyone) - how do you deal with the triggers of old
stuff to be able to stay there?
<br>
<br>
thanks
<br> ]]></description>

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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:02:40 GMT</pubDate>
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